Noah Smith (@noahopinion) has become deeply intellectually dishonest. If he actually followed the ...

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AI领域专家Gary Marcus批评Noah Smith未能正确理解神经符号混合系统的重要性,并指出其观点存在断章取义。
核心要点
- 神经符号混合系统(含代码解释器、验证器)是数学领域的重要突破
- Eric Schmidt 2025年预测的AI数学家已初步验证
- Gary Marcus主张混合系统30年,遭学界长期反对
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- §争议背景
Gary Marcus指控Noah Smith对其学术观点存在断章取义。
纯LLM与神经符号混合系统的本质区别被忽视。
- ›历史主张
Marcus强调其30年研究始终支持神经符号混合架构。
- ·技术验证
Lean等工具推动数学领域重大进展,验证Marcus理论。
- ›预测验证
Eric Schmidt 2025年预测的AI数学家已出现雏形。
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- AI领域技术争论
- Gary Marcus观点
- 主张神经符号混合系统
- 30年研究历史
- Noah Smith回应
- 被指断章取义
- 质疑AI革命存在性
- 技术验证
- Lean工具突破
- Eric Schmidt预测验证
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神经符号组件(尤其是Lean)推动数学领域重大突破
Marcus称自己30年研究始终倡导神经符号混合系统
Eric Schmidt预测的AI数学家已获初步验证
Gary Marcus on X: "Noah Smith (@noahopinion) has become deeply intellectually dishonest. If he actually followed the field he would a. understand the difference between pure LLMs and LLMs with neurosymbolic harnesses, code intepreters, verifiiers b. realize that a central point of my entire ca… / X
Gary Marcus
@GaryMarcus
Noah Smith (
@
noahopinion
) has become deeply intellectually dishonest. If he actually followed the field he would a. understand the difference between pure LLMs and LLMs with neurosymbolic harnesses, code intepreters, verifiiers b. realize that a central point of my entire career, in work spanning 30 years, was advocating for neurosymbolic hybrids, (generally against great hostility from the field). c. realize that the great leap forward in math came from adding neurosymbolic components (harnesses and especially Lean) to neural networks. d. realize that that great leap forward in math actually *vindicated* my central claim. Instead he completely ignored all that to take a cheap shot, out of context. (Though I acknowledge I was off the timing of math.) —- *As Terence Tao has noted there are still lots of things that (some) world-class mathematicians can do, like invent new principles, and write clear proofs, that as far as I know AI has not done, though of the course the results are very impressive.
Noah Smith 🐇🇺🇸🇺🇦🇹🇼
@Noahpinion
Oct 8
Gary Marcus could have been part of the AI revolution, but instead he dedicated the entire rest of his life to denying its existence in real time. Weird choice but ok
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Cody Fenwick
@codytfenwick
Oct 7
+1
In July 2025, Eric Schmidt predicted "world-class AI mathematicians will emerge in the next one year."
said this prediction was "pure fantasy." I think the evidence now shows Schmidt's prediction has been vindicated.
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