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That's what recursive reasoning unlocks. …...more ...more ## Chapters View all [![Image 8](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### Intro #### Intro 0:00](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### [Intro](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) 0:00 [![Image 9](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### Model Foundations #### Model Foundations 0:35](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=35s) #### [Model Foundations](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=35s) 0:35 [![Image 10](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### RNN Limits and LLM Contrast #### RNN Limits and LLM Contrast 1:15](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=75s) #### [RNN Limits and LLM Contrast](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=75s) 1:15 [![Image 11](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### Reasoning Limits and Sorting Analogy #### Reasoning Limits and Sorting Analogy 2:36](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=156s) #### [Reasoning Limits and Sorting Analogy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=156s) 2:36 [![Image 12](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### HRM Paper Introduction #### HRM Paper Introduction 4:22](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=262s&pp=0gcJCREDDuyUWbzu) #### [HRM Paper Introduction](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=262s&pp=0gcJCREDDuyUWbzu) 4:22 [![Image 13](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### HRM Architecture and Intuition #### HRM Architecture and Intuition 5:25](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=325s) #### [HRM Architecture and Intuition](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=325s) 5:25 [![Image 14](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### HRM Results and Outer Loop #### HRM Results and Outer Loop 7:36](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=456s) #### [HRM Results and Outer Loop](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=456s) 7:36 [![Image 15](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### TRM Paper Overview #### TRM Paper Overview 9:46](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=586s) #### [TRM Paper Overview](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=586s) 9:46 Transcript Follow along using the transcript. Show transcript [![Image 16](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) ### Y Combinator 2.24M subscribers](http://www.youtube.com/@ycombinator) [Videos](http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcefcZRL2oaA_uBNeo5UOWg/videos)[About](http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcefcZRL2oaA_uBNeo5UOWg/about) Show less [](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) # Recursion Is The Next Scaling Law In AI 4,456 views May 1, 2026 139 Share Save Download Download ## 8 Comments Sort comments Sort by [Top Show featured comments](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc)[Newest Show recent comments, including potential spam](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) ![Image 17: Default profile photo](https://yt3.ggpht.com/a/default-user=s48-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) Add a comment... ![Image 18](https://yt3.ggpht.com/aNedzAWLIfW5yhal2RUvBeY0PxK-TFeFhP0NGcnMgILobnhu6lbZ64Jb0xlI8FlcL6I46Rzh=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) ### [@ananyatyagi7979](http://www.youtube.com/@ananyatyagi7979) [10 hours ago](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&lc=UgwXBSlXCLKexKHLuzl4AaABAg) This framing feels very relevant to legal AI. I am building Arbitalis. AI for arbitration, where the challenge is not one-shot answers but structured reasoning loops across evidence, timelines, issues, and risks with humans always in control. Excited to show YC what we have built. Show less Read more Like 2 Dislike Reply ![Image 19](https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AIdro_meLtS1C8gl1i7ctdw977aqXq65ZlRYz3nJcpNHxhajLNpRpb2AVHlBghoDuIef2xu6gQ=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) ### [@SkynetFromMars](http://www.youtube.com/@SkynetFromMars) [9 hours ago](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&lc=UgzyTx3yoh78phchaxl4AaABAg) I’m here! YC admit me ![Image 20: ❤](https://www.youtube.com/s/gaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u2764.png) Show less Read more Like 1 Dislike Reply ![Image 21](https://yt3.ggpht.com/_O-83Xlop1aYv0m5IzeFWMEqx3cMpquQ0xxKJNML6qo1xS0X14iDjpvaiNNTeIRr1w8W991mrQ=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) ### [@Rencom-z8k](http://www.youtube.com/@Rencom-z8k) [1 hour ago](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&lc=UgwLuz_I3QO4DlbZW454AaABAg) Yes please do more of these & make sure to attach the papers. Show less Read more Like Dislike Reply ![Image 22](https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AIdro_mg504CKpmMyGSa85-k8GKG35iXtZ8HiPg3Fs-KQQM=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) ### [@TheBlackClockOfTime](http://www.youtube.com/@TheBlackClockOfTime) [9 hours ago](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&lc=UgxuFvpd4eYnE-17dZt4AaABAg) More of this please. Much, much more of this. Show less Read more Like Dislike ![Image 23](https://yt3.ggpht.com/dGyATx87Fp_s1nZvnupUFSnMqbAPZ6nqRby9Esk1m6YE41iBq-9Z8iGoIgHTCT9SiDBUpP2V=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) ❤ by @ycombinator Reply ![Image 24](https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AIdro_liHEwPYqDUnrJ6J7XGvsvimA_--iygk3qx3DlRXI4=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) ### [@bjarke7886](http://www.youtube.com/@bjarke7886) [10 hours ago](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&lc=UgxPl-XAgsNZXchI6yR4AaABAg) Currently doing my masters on TRM and DRMs Show less Read more Like Dislike Reply ![Image 25](https://yt3.ggpht.com/Xxdh2H62Q4Q8bjNRW4uvE2b-IRDC7eh6WwyMCVLBEeXDdr1Q2gG1YUbTn1sHRb8dX4J-Rc4c=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) ### [@BaltimoreOpulentLiving](http://www.youtube.com/@BaltimoreOpulentLiving) [11 hours ago](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&lc=Ugx3eT0uqUaCMoDVQ9N4AaABAg) Never been this early Show less Read more Like 1 Dislike Reply ![Image 26](https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AIdro_nHiPxvdzPcu5LjWYZGlqsw4hH74n1XhJvt82ABC16Kpmg=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) ### [@koustubhavachat](http://www.youtube.com/@koustubhavachat) [11 hours ago](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&lc=UgzqA_TA5vhx9ONh81d4AaABAg) what about RLM ? Show less Read more Like 1 Dislike Reply ![Image 27](https://yt3.ggpht.com/Ourf64949JJ06_Ty2d9kAw10Q24HcdMpu6mOY_57ioD9C-QTBxHlmwuLQNugsnozElntj5n7KQ=s88-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj) ### [@tempusvita](http://www.youtube.com/@tempusvita) [11 hours ago (edited)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&lc=Ugzq7G82AoAjGwjwzZx4AaABAg) Hello yc I had applied in s26 Show less Read more Like 2 Dislike Reply Top is selected, so you'll see featured comments ## Comments 8 [Top Show featured comments](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc)[Newest Show recent comments, including potential spam](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) ## In this video Chapters Transcript ## Chapters [![Image 28](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### Intro #### Intro 0:00](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### [Intro](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) 0:00 [![Image 29](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### Model Foundations #### Model Foundations 0:35](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=35s) #### [Model Foundations](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=35s) 0:35 [![Image 30](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### RNN Limits and LLM Contrast #### RNN Limits and LLM Contrast 1:15](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=75s) #### [RNN Limits and LLM Contrast](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=75s) 1:15 [![Image 31](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### Reasoning Limits and Sorting Analogy #### Reasoning Limits and Sorting Analogy 2:36](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=156s) #### [Reasoning Limits and Sorting Analogy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=156s) 2:36 [![Image 32](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### HRM Paper Introduction #### HRM Paper Introduction 4:22](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=262s) #### [HRM Paper Introduction](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=262s) 4:22 [![Image 33](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### HRM Architecture and Intuition #### HRM Architecture and Intuition 5:25](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=325s) #### [HRM Architecture and Intuition](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=325s) 5:25 [![Image 34](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### HRM Results and Outer Loop #### HRM Results and Outer Loop 7:36](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=456s) #### [HRM Results and Outer Loop](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=456s) 7:36 [![Image 35](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### TRM Paper Overview #### TRM Paper Overview 9:46](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=586s) #### [TRM Paper Overview](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=586s) 9:46 [![Image 36](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### TRM Training and Fixed Point #### TRM Training and Fixed Point 11:20](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=680s) #### [TRM Training and Fixed Point](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=680s) 11:20 [![Image 37](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### Detailed HRM Summary #### Detailed HRM Summary 13:30](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=810s) #### [Detailed HRM Summary](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=810s) 13:30 [![Image 38](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### Comparing HRM and TRM #### Comparing HRM and TRM 20:46](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=1246s&pp=0gcJCREDDuyUWbzu) #### [Comparing HRM and TRM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=1246s&pp=0gcJCREDDuyUWbzu) 20:46 [![Image 39](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc) #### Future Outlook and Outro #### Future Outlook and Outro 34:45](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=2085s) #### [Future Outlook and Outro](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGtUUMNYLcc&t=2085s) 34:45 Sync to video time ## Description Recursion Is The Next Scaling Law In AI 139 Likes 4,456 Views 11h Ago A 7-million parameter model outperforming models a thousand times its size on tasks like ARC Prize. That's what recursive reasoning unlocks. In this episode of Decoded, YC's Ankit Gupta and Francois Chaubard break down two recent papers on recursive AI models, HRMs and TRMs, that are achieving state-of-the-art results with a fraction of the parameters of today's largest models. They explain why standard LLMs hit a fundamental ceiling on certain reasoning tasks, how recursion at inference time gives small models the compute depth to break through it, and what happens when you combine these ideas with the power of large-scale foundation models. 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